Ok, yes. I’ve just been really busy… although, that isn’t why I disappeared. I needed a break because this blog got out of hand. I set out to make a PLL blog where I could post my edits and opinions when I felt like it but it somehow turned into a popular theory blog. I love reading everybody’s comments and I loved being someone people wanted to talk to. In theory, it was great but I don’t know how to answer everybody. I don’t have time and I didn’t/don’t know how to resolve that without making somebody angry or hurting feelings.
With the show starting back up, I’m thinking of starting fresh. I miss you guys and talking about the show. I miss making edits and ranting about everything. Hopefully I can find the time!
YES! That’s 1.07. In that episode, A sends the girls a message that says, “Thanks for getting Toby out of my way” and we’re suppose to think he’s dead. But now we know he’s not so what did that message mean? I personally think it means that the girls pushed him to join the A team when they ganged up on Emily for befriending him and basically threatening to blame him for Alison’s death in 1.06. Instead of him being on the girl’s side once befriending Emily, he was convinced to turn on them for good and join Mona and friends on the team.
I think it WAS him who fished the file out of the creek. It showed his motorcycle all messed up and back at his house, Emily crying about it later, and then A picking up his file. It would make sense that he’d want his own documents.
I believe that! I guess we’re just gonna have to wait and see. I’d love it if he’d stay, but it does make me mad that whoever is dead wasn’t designed with a lot of purpose and planning. It’s obvious they could just throw anybody into that trunk or put anyone in that morgue. I know TV can’t always work like that, but since we don’t get many answers, it gets kind of tiresome sometimes.
Yeah, I’m just taking it as it comes because I feel like when you have expectations, it only disappoints you. This finale really wasn’t a huge disappointment to me this time because I acknowledged that it was what it was and didn’t try to make it something it wasn’t. I made that mistake every single finale before this one and it sucked.
I’ll like it if my favorite characters turn bad but I’m not really expecting anything anymore.
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Yeah. I think they can share more with us than they have. I used to be more patient. They need to start giving us a better idea of whats up. More and more mystery gets stacked on top of everything else while all we really get to know is that “pretty eyes” is Toby. I’m grateful for that question being answers, but we could have found out what happened to Jason. Or more about what Jenna is up to. Or another member of the A team. SOMETHING!
Yeah, I know. There is a part of me that trusts that the writers have a plan for everything. They may be lying to us as it goes so we don’t catch on, but I think it’s possible that everything could make sense in the end. But there is a part of me that worries I’m wasting my life trying to make sense of something they really just make up as they go along.
If I was watching the finale with absolutely no knowledge about what the producers and writers have said, I would assume that Toby was lying to Spencer. I think he really does love her, but his intention still wasn’t to keep her safe all this time. Him being ‘pretty eyes’ threw that out of the water. He joined the team way before the writers have suggested he did. I know Marlene pointed to 1.07 as the moment she decided he would be a part of it, but she’s also said things that suggest he actually joined later on. I’ve always thought he joined in 1.07, but she’s been busy throwing people off that path.
Ok, wait. I was corrected when I said it was Spencer who told Jenna about the get together at the lodge and I think they’re right. The message I thought went to Jenna was really sent to Toby while Spencer was spying on her. I know that one of the reasons I missed the hint is because I was waiting to see who ‘pretty eyes’ was. So instead of picking it up that the clock was showing 9PM, I was in a daze trying to prepare myself for the reveal.
Having said that, I was just watching the scene where Melissa is over at Jenna’s house with Shana. In that scene, Melissa says, “those bitches are all going to be at the lodge at 9.” The invitation that she’s holding in her hand says “8PM”, not 9. So I think the writers even got a tad bit confused on that one. I’m glad people are smarter than me and made better sense of the timeline, but it was still confusing.
You’re right. Spencer didn’t invite Jenna but we still don’t know who originally told her about the meet up. Jenna told Shana about the meet up at the lodge before Melissa brought the invite to her. And to further my point about Spencer being fishy… if she knew that Jenna was up to something, hence stalking her, why didn’t she tell the girls to watch out for her too? They knew that she met up with Melissa and Shana. It just seemed really fishy that Spencer found a way out of that lodge right before it caught on fire and that she didn’t find her way back to it until all the girls were saved by Red Coat. If they hadn’t been, Spencer would have returned to a bunch of burned bodies.
Yeah, you’re right about that. I missed that clue. I guess I was thrown off by the text being sent at the same time Jenna received one. Either way, she was still the one stalking Jenna. She had all those pictures of her and she was looking at them when Toby walked up to her. Doesn’t mess up what I was trying to say too bad.
Nothing is set in stone and we certainly don’t have all the answers yet. We’re being made to think that Toby isn’t really bad, but we’re also seeing it from Spencer’s perspective. If he wants her to believe he’s good, he’ll say what he has to say. But I think something much darker could be happening. What if Spencer seriously joined the team and isn’t genuinely on the girl’s side anymore? She has Toby back and after the hell she went through, she might be crazy enough to turn her back on her friends.
Has anybody else thought of the fact that Spencer was the one spying on Jenna throughout the finale?
She told Jenna to go to the place everybody was gathering at. Jenna then told Shana, Melissa brought an invitation, and all three of them talked about it together. Why did Spencer ask them to come? I’m assuming they were the ones who set the house on fire. When Mona suggested that she and Spencer take a walk, Toby stepped in and led Spencer out of the house. Very shortly after, it was on fire with Mona and the girls inside. Red Coat got them all out. Spencer didn’t look shocked to see the fire or happy that all of them were saved. It sounds like something she and Toby set up. And it still makes sense that Toby was knocked out because if it was Jenna who lit the place on fire, she would want an alibi. Who better to take the fall than the step-brother who blinded you?
I honestly don’t think things are how they seem right now.
ETA: I stand corrected about Spencer inviting Jenna. She was texting Toby. But it doesn’t really ruin what I’m trying to say, so I’m keeping it up.
2.12 is a very confusing episode but essentially, you are talking about what the writers say to the media because they’re the ones that say Toby was always good. Yes, Toby said that everything he’s done was to keep Spencer safe, but characters lie. When he said that, as a viewer, you could decide believe him or not. The writers are telling us to believe him and I’m saying that I wouldn’t be so sure. I don’t believe him.
There is this question at the end of 2.12. Did Jenna and Garrett set them up or did the A team? The team sent them the dolls and led Emily to the barn. They did all of that. But at the end, Jenna acted like she set them up. We now know that she isn’t on the team. So we can either assume the writers messed up and don’t know what they’re doing or maybe we just don’t know the details yet. I see a lot of people acting like we have all the answers and it doesn’t make sense. We haven’t even scratched the surface. We don’t know if it makes sense or not.
I don’t think Toby has always helped the girls but I do think he’s been conflicted. In 2.12, he went to the police station and very publicly declared his love for Spencer. That could have been his way of making up for what he’d done.